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Could a Spyware Ridden Machine Get you 40 Years in Jail?

As anyone who has ever read this blog knows, I always try to tie these spyware, adware posts back to my friends from Zango, those guys who never do anything wrong, it’s always an affiliate or another website. While Zango is not mentioned, I bet money one of their programs was installed, hehe. But I just read this article from Computer World by Preston Gralla, Porn-surfing teacher: Spyware made me do it!, who obviously should not be posting about spyware, as it appears he does not have a clue and his blog post is a complete joke.

A recent court case found a Connecticut substitute teacher guilty of surfing for pornographic sites in front of her seventh grade class, and now, she faces 40 years in prison. Wow, forty years, I was watching something on TV the other night where two guys killed someone and the max they could and did get was 15 years. But this teacher could get forty years? That is just plain wrong. Anyone who is involved in anyway with school systems know, most teachers aren’t prepared for something like this, the teacher was probably as overwhelmed and shocked as the students were when it happened and was just trying to get them to close down. And if it has happened to you, when you click the x to close a popup, one or many more can popup on you, making it look like you may have actually clicked on the popup itself.

Not only that, the prosecutor wanted to know, but if in fact spyware was on the PC, why didn’t the teacher merely turn off the computer or pull the plug on it?

Julie Amero had no answer.

Lawyers have come up with some novel defenses over the years, including the “Twinkie defense” in which a lawyer argued that defendant Dan White’s eating of Twinkies and drinking Coca-Cola proved that he was depressed, and so not responsible for his actions in murdering San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk in 1978. The defense was partially successful; White was convicted of voluntary manslaughter rather than murder.

Luckily, it seems as if the spyware-made-me-do-it defense doesn’t cut it in court. For once, justice prevails. Source: Porn-surfing teacher: Spyware made me do it!

A substitute teacher is just that a substitute, and has not been in similar situations, and probably had no idea unplugging the machine or turning off the projector would have been the best way out, plus, the school system has to have content filtering in place to be able to get E-rate money to help fund all of the computers, internet access, etc. The school systems filters should’ve prevented most porn sites from popping up to start with, so, why isn’t the school system on trial and not the teacher?

And according to a quote from Alex Eckelberry, who is President of Sunbelt Software, they didn’t even check for spyware.

The court actions of the case were flawed as well. For example, one source reports that the Trial Judge, Hillary Strackbein, was seen falling asleep during proceedings and made comments to the jury that she wanted the case over by the end of the week. It was also reported that Judge Strackbein attempted to pressure the defense into an unwanted plea deal, in place of a trial. The defense attorney for Amero, moved for a mistrial shortly before closing arguments Friday, based on reports that jurors had discussed the case at a local restaurant.?

Was justice done here? A bad spyware infestation can splatter a machine full of porn popups and it?s a bit unnerving to think that a teacher could get hard prison time for something that was likely to have been completely innocent.

We need far more evidence than what is available to come to the conclusion that “justice was done”. In fact, all the available evidence shows quite the opposite — that this might just be a grave miscarriage of justice. Source: Alex Eckelberry

I have recently had the chance to attend several classes on computer forensics, so sure, the police found evidence that those sites were visited, but ANY window that is opened on the computer will show up in the cache and list of websites visited. The fact that neither the defense nor the prosecution tried to show how it happened is incomprehensible to me. If it was one website that caused this to happen, it would be so easy for them to repeat what happened. This quote from computer crimes investigator in an article on the Norwhich Bulletin is very telling,

“You have to physically click on it to get to those sites,” Smith said. “I think the evidence is overwhelming that she did intend to access those Web sites.” Source: Teacher guilty in Norwich porn case

You do NOT have to click on any link, it can be loaded from spyware apps, malware, or other malicious websites, it can be loaded from a website, that was loaded in a popup, from a website that was loaded in another popup, from another website that was loaded in a popup, and as the saying goes, on and on and on. This is just a case of one investigator only having the tools to do forensic investigation and not the knowledge of how a computer works to go along with it. Anyone involved in the Julie Amero case feel free to leave me a message at 304-521-2582 or an email to webmaster at tipsdr.com with “Julie Amero case” as the subject and I will be happy to explain how this could happen with the teacher only opening one “innocent” webpage on her computer. The 40 years should go to the spyware makers or to the school system, not this substitute teacher.

2 comments - What do you think?  Posted by Jimmy Daniels - January 13, 2007 at 12:25 am

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180Solutions Sues Zone Labs

Speaking of big ugly green worms, 180 solutions has filed suit against Zone Labs, for, and I quote,

At the heart of 180solution’s suit is the assertion made by San Francisco-based Zone Labs that 180′s products try to monitor a user’s “mouse movements and keyboard strokes.”

I posted about this on the RealTechNews website and they accused me of sloppy reporting because I was talking about other things they were doing, not wether they are keylogging or not. Well, who cares? Only 180 and everyone they give a paycheck too. I have not looked at the Zone Labs product, but I am assuming when they are listed as high risk, they are automatically removed, and maybe when they aren’t flagged as high risk, they are not automatically removed. Anyone who uses the product want to tell me for sure?

Such a characterization has damaged the reputation of the products, 180solutions contends, prompting one potential business partner to postpone a deal and many of 180solutions’ users to uninstall the software, according to a copy of the suit obtained by CNET News.com.

Damages their reputation, excuse me while I finish laughing…..

Okay, how can anyone damage their reputation? Search for 180solutions and see what comes up on google and any other search engine.

The suit comes as 180solutions attempts to improve its public image and continues to take fire from anti-spyware groups, which characterize many adware products as computer-privacy time bombs.

Now, 180solutions is firing back. In the lawsuit, filed in the Superior Court of King County, Wash., last month, the company claimed that Zone Labs identified both the Zango and 180search Assistant applications, which deliver pop-up ads to users as they perform Web searches, as a “potential threat to the user’s security and/or privacy.”

They are a threat to users, they have to know where the users are going to pop up those ad’s, if they didn’t know what or where, then how would they pop up targetted ad’s?

Just look at some of the recent evidence from some of the esteemed spyware researchers, Spyware Warrior, Sunbelt and Wayne Porter. Read some of the older stuff you can find on google and you’ll see what they were like, so they’re not that much different now, they are just trying to fly under the radar. I don’t know why I am getting myself all worked up about it, I’ll just keep removing them from every pc I come in contact with, and maybe someday, somebody somewhere will finally decide this stuff is illegal and they will go away, until they come up with some other scheme to make money.

Anyway, if you ever see any pop ups on your computer that mention zango, 180solutions, search assistant, etc, then you have their programs installed and they can be removed by all of the free programs, like adaware and spybot, search and destroy.

Be the first to comment - What do you think?  Posted by Jimmy Daniels - December 2, 2005 at 3:55 pm

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